Friday, April 04, 2008

General Odom Speaks the Truth about the US in Iraq

Finally, a voice of reason. (courtesy of After Downing Street.org)

TESTIMONY BEFORE THE SENATE FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTEE ON IRAQ
By William E. Odom, LT General, USA, Ret.

2 April 2008

Good morning Mr. Chairman and members of the committee. It is an honor to appear before you again. The last occasion was in January 2007, when the topic was the troop surge. Today you are asking if it has worked. Last year I rejected the claim that it was a new strategy. Rather, I said, it is a new tactic used to achieve the same old strategic aim, political stability. And I foresaw no serious prospects for success.

I see no reason to change my judgment now. The surge is prolonging instability, not creating the conditions for unity as the president claims.

Last year, General Petraeus wisely declined to promise a military solution to this political problem, saying that he could lower the level of violence, allowing a limited time for the Iraqi leaders to strike a political deal. Violence has been temporarily reduced but today there is credible evidence that the political situation is far more fragmented. And currently we see violence surge in Baghdad and Basra. In fact, it has also remained sporadic and significant in
several other parts of Iraq over the past year, notwithstanding the notable drop in Baghdad and Anbar Province.

More disturbing, Prime Minister Maliki has initiated military action and then dragged in US forces to help his own troops destroy his Shiite competitors. This is a political setback, not a political
solution. Such is the result of the surge tactic.

No less disturbing has been the steady violence in the Mosul area, and the tensions in Kirkuk between Kurds, Arabs, and Turkomen. A showdown over control of the oil fields there surely awaits us. And the idea that some kind of a federal solution can cut this Gordian knot strikes me as a wild fantasy, wholly out of touch with Kurdish realities.

Also disturbing is Turkey’s military incursion to destroy Kurdish PKK groups in the border region. That confronted the US government with a choice: either to support its NATO ally, or to make good on its commitment to Kurdish leaders to insure their security. It chose the former, and that makes it clear to the Kurds that the United States will sacrifice their security to its larger interests in Turkey.

Turning to the apparent success in Anbar province and a few other Sunni areas, this is not the positive situation it is purported to be. Certainly violence has declined as local Sunni shieks have begun to cooperate with US forces. But the surge tactic cannot be given full credit. The decline started earlier on Sunni initiative. What are their motives? First, anger at al Qaeda operatives and second, their financial plight.

Their break with al Qaeda should give us little comfort. The
Sunnis welcomed anyone who would help them kill Americans,
including al Qaeda. The concern we hear the president and his aides
express about a residual base left for al Qaeda if we withdraw is utter
nonsense. The Sunnis will soon destroy al Qaeda if we leave Iraq.
The Kurds do not allow them in their region, and the Shiites,
like the Iranians, detest al Qaeda. To understand why, one need only
take note of the al Qaeda public diplomacy campaign over the past
year or so on internet blogs. They implore the United States to bomb
and invade Iran and destroy this apostate Shiite regime.
As an aside, it gives me pause to learn that our vice president
and some members of the Senate are aligned with al Qaeda on
spreading the war to Iran.

Let me emphasize that our new Sunni friends insist on being
paid for their loyalty. I have heard, for example, a rough estimate that
the cost in one area of about 100 square kilometers is $250,000 per
day. And periodically they threaten to defect unless their fees are
increased. You might want to find out the total costs for these deals
forecasted for the next several years, because they are not small and
they do not promise to end. Remember, we do not own these people.
We merely rent them. And they can break the lease at any moment.
At the same time, this deal protects them to some degree from the
government’s troops and police, hardly a sign of political
reconciliation.

Now let us consider the implications of the proliferating deals
with the Sunni strongmen. They are far from unified among
themselves. Some remain with al Qaeda. Many who break and join
our forces are beholden to no one. Thus the decline in violence
reflects a dispersion of power to dozens of local strong men who
distrust the government and occasionally fight among themselves.
Thus the basic military situation is far worse because of the
proliferation of armed groups under local military chiefs who follow a
proliferating number of political bosses.

This can hardly be called greater military stability, much less
progress toward political consolidation, and to call it fragility that
needs more time to become success is to ignore its implications. At
the same time, Prime Minister Maliki’s military actions in Basra and
Baghdad, indicate even wider political and military fragmentation. We
are witnessing is more accurately described as the road to the
Balkanization of Iraq, that is, political fragmentation. We are being
asked by the president to believe that this shift of so much power and
finance to so many local chieftains is the road to political
centralization. He describes the process as building the state from
the bottom up.

I challenge you to press the administration’s witnesses this week to explain this absurdity. Ask them to name a single historical
case where power has been aggregated successfully from local
strong men to a central government except through bloody violence
leading to a single winner, most often a dictator. That is the history of
feudal Europe’s transformation to the age of absolute monarchy. It is
the story of the American colonization of the west and our Civil War.
It took England 800 years to subdue clan rule on what is now the English-Scottish border. And it is the source of violence in Bosnia and Kosovo.

How can our leaders celebrate this diffusion of power as
effective state building? More accurately described, it has placed the
United States astride several civil wars. And it allows all sides to
consolidate, rearm, and refill their financial coffers at the US expense.

To sum up, we face a deteriorating political situation with an
over extended army. When the administration’s witnesses appear
before you, you should make them clarify how long the army and
marines can sustain this band-aid strategy.

The only sensible strategy is to withdraw rapidly but in good order. Only that step can break the paralysis now gripping US
strategy in the region. The next step is to choose a new aim, regional
stability, not a meaningless victory in Iraq. And progress toward that
goal requires revising our policy toward Iran. If the president merely
renounced his threat of regime change by force, that could prompt
Iran to lessen its support to Taliban groups in Afghanistan. Iran
detests the Taliban and supports them only because they will kill
more Americans in Afghanistan as retaliation in event of a US attack
on Iran. Iran’s policy toward Iraq would also have to change radically as we withdraw. It cannot want instability there. Iraqi Shiites are Arabs, and they know that Persians look down on them. Cooperation between them has its limits.

No quick reconciliation between the US and Iran is likely, but
US steps to make Iran feel more secure make it far more conceivable
than a policy calculated to increase its insecurity. The president’s
policy has reinforced Iran’s determination to acquire nuclear
weapons, the very thing he purports to be trying to prevent.

Withdrawal from Iraq does not mean withdrawal from the
region. It must include a realignment and reassertion of US forces
and diplomacy that give us a better chance to achieve our aim.

A number of reasons are given for not withdrawing soon and completely. I have refuted them repeatedly before but they have more lives than a cat. Let try again me explain why they don’t make
sense.

First, it is insisted that we must leave behind military training
element with no combat forces to secure them. This makes no sense
at all. The idea that US military trainers left alone in Iraq can be safe
and effective is flatly rejected by several NCOs and junior officers I
have heard describe their personal experiences. Moreover, training foreign forces before they have a consolidated political authority to command their loyalty is a windmill tilt. Finally, Iraq is not short on military skills.

Second, it is insisted that chaos will follow our withdrawal. We
heard that argument as the “domino theory” in Vietnam. Even so, the
path to political stability will be bloody regardless of whether we
withdraw or not. The idea that the United States has a moral
responsibility to prevent this ignores that reality. We are certainly to
blame for it, but we do not have the physical means to prevent it.
American leaders who insist that it is in our power to do so are
misleading both the public and themselves if they believe it.
The real moral question is whether to risk the lives of more
Americans. Unlike preventing chaos, we have the physical means to
stop sending more troops where many will be killed or wounded. That
is the moral responsibility to our country which no American leaders
seems willing to assume.

Third, nay sayers insist that our withdrawal will create regional instability. This confuses cause with effect. Our forces in Iraq and our threat to change Iran’s regime are making the region unstable. Those who link instability with a US withdrawal have it exactly backwards. Our ostrich strategy of keeping our heads buried in the sands of Iraq has done nothing but advance our enemies’ interest.

I implore you to reject these fallacious excuses for prolonging the commitment of US forces to war in Iraq.

Thanks for this opportunity to testify today.

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Friday, September 21, 2007

Betray-us, indeed

Senate Democrats who voted for the Cornyn Resolution. Remember them at election time:

Baucus (MT)
Bayh (IN)
Cardin (MD)
Carper (DE)
Casey (PA)
Conrad (ND)
Dorgan (ND)
Feinstein (CA)
Johnson (SD)
Klobuchar (MN)
Kohl (WI)
Landrieu (LA)
Leahy (VT)
Lincoln (AR)
McCaskill (MO)
Mikulski (MD)
Nelson (NE)
Nelson (FL)
Pryor (AR)
Salazar (CO)
Tester (MT)
Webb (VA)


Raw Story has a good rundown on the Senate vote on the resolution sponsored by conservative Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) to condemn this ad placed by MoveOn. -------------------->

Even more striking than the article are the 112 (as of right now) comments on the article. I'm tempted to copy them all and post them. Here are a few. The anger is palpable.
72 votes to repudiate Move-on and no votes for the Webb-Hagel troop rotation bill? talk about misplaced prioroites? Webb-Hagel provided for one for one rotation dates one day in the war zone+one day at home before being sent back.
stupid republicans aatck 1st ammnedment turn yer back on the troops for fear of giving combat vets a chance to regroup? you will reap what you sew....
stew | Email | Homepage | 09.20.07 - 3:35 pm

I have read on several sites that William Fallon, head of Central Command and Petraeus' Boss referred to him last March as that "Ass kissing little chickenshit.". So where is the Pompous Politician's indignation over that remark?
billmelater | Email | Homepage | 09.20.07 - 3:41 pm

I swear-to-god. Don't any of you piece-of-shit senators that voted for this crap ever dare come asking me for a dime. This includes you Sen Nelson (DINO-FL).
kharma | Email | Homepage | 09.20.07 - 3:45 pm

"your papers please...Hmm, I see you are not a member of the party. Please step aside so we may assess your predisposition to radicalism."

Strange, that doesn't seem so impossible any more......
cliffer | Email | Homepage | 09.20.07 - 3:56 pm

As a Marylander, Sen. Mikulski and Sen. Cardin should be ashamed of themselves! Just remember the slogan: What the fuck is Congress for? Cut the funding, end the war!
Are you on the list? | Email | Homepage | 09.20.07 - 4:05 pm

(Both are on the list)

11% ... gee I wonder why?

They attacked the 4th Amendment, now the 1st Amendment... must be time to go after the 2nd...

And I thought there was a war to stop! Silly me.
yup | Email | Homepage | 09.20.07 - 4:07 pm

They took time to vote against MoveOn but not to bring our troops home? WTF?!
Mrs. Vargas | Email | Homepage | 09.20.07 - 4:09 pm

Fucking Bullshit is what this is. Where the hell are the Democratic Senators and who the hell do they think they represent? I'm repulsed that the dems would vote for this silly condemnation of MoveON when the attacks from the repugs over these past 7 years have been so vicious, scurrilous, and utterly untruthful.

I for one can not condone either of my senators casting this vote. Barbara and Diane....you better not have voted for this bullshit!!!!!!!
Speak Truth To Power | Email | Homepage | 09.20.07 - 4:14 pm

(Diane did)

I agree with previous posters. Don't our elected leaders have more important things to worry about than a newspaper ad placed by a fringe political group?? I'd also like to know the democrat senators who signed off on this as well. All their approval does is give credence to the GOP attempts to make hay out of a non-issue, while ignoring the real problems our nation faces.

HINT TO CONGRESS: This is why your approval ratings are at 11%. We hired you to represent US, not to ignore us and attack our free speech rights. I vote democrat and want them to remain in control, but I'm in favor of replacing all of them with new blood!!!
Scubydoo | Email | Homepage | 09.20.07 - 4:16 pm

How about a vote condeming Karl Rove for all of his name calling.

Remember being called a traitor because you were against the war....

Remember being called un-American because you didn't support the war....

Remember being told you were against the troops because you were against the war.....

Remember being told that you were a supporter of terrorist because you were against illegal wire tapping....

how dare they waste our time with this bullshit lookieloo crap.

the only reason they are doing this is because they have already exhausted flag buring, gay marriage, and school prayer.

GET TO WORK YOU BASTARDS AND STOP WASTING ALL OF OUR TIME WITH THIS BULLSHIT.

The more time our Senate and Congress waste on bullshit like this - is less time they debate the war.

So in other words - they would rather do this than address the war and save our young brave soldiers.

God Help US - and Damn them to hell.
Patrick: Husband, Father, Lib | Email | Homepage | 09.20.07 - 4:17 pm

Chimpy is playing the Dems like a bunch of fools. Where was 1 repub condemning the Swift Boat ads?

I can't believe I was stupid enuff to think the Dems would stand up to Bush and end the war. They are just a bunch of cowards, pathetic cowards. As retarded and dumb as Chimpy is he stills runs circles around these Dem idiots.

Were better off with no Congress or president instead of this garbage we call our leaders. No wonder there approval rating is as low as Charles Manson.

When Cheney has a higher approval rate then Congress, then you doing something wrong.
LG | Email | Homepage | 09.20.07 - 4:18 pm

When is the Congress going to waste more time condemming Ann Coulter, Sean hannity, Mike Savage, or Mark Levin?? What a JOKE!!! why are our Democratic leaders such PUSSIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!
Haggard,Craig,Vitter,Foley,Wes | Email | Homepage | 09.20.07 - 4:19 pm

The fascistic response is alarming.

MoveOn should quadruple it's efforts. Telling the truth is unrelated to swiftboating and deserves much more exposure.

Petraeus is enabling militant corporatists to feed a crime in progress. That's bad, by the way.

http://www.light-to-dark.com/ the...eus_insult.html
Stephen Pitt | Email | Homepage | 09.20.07 - 4:36 pm

How did this even get to the floor for a vote? Couldn't Reid just have put it down, like how the Repukes put down anything the Dems wanted when the Repukes had the majority?

Just as the comments say before mine, the misplacement of priorities is astounding. Republicans are completely retarded, and for any Dem to go along with bs like this is reprehensible.

On another important note, Dems should be filibustering until Habeus Corpus is restored - there should be no further business until that is restored. Republicans are the fucking cancer of our country. Pussified Dems are aggravating. I am beyond tired of this shit.
Tim | Email | Homepage | 09.20.07 - 4:38 pm

It's perfectly fine for GOP senators and right wing orgs to attack a general or admiral who doesn't agree with them or who takes a stance contrary to their views (Iraq, Attacking Iran), but if an organization representing the mood of the majority of the public does it - it's worthy of censure... worthy of condemnation???!!!! What a shameful and utter display of mendacious, hypocritical political grandstanding.

Any dem who voted for it should be ashamed - I can even respect the whole - taking no stand, it's not worthy of making a stand one way or the other - it's a non-issue.
Kevin | Email | Homepage | 09.20.07 - 4:55 pm

So they can't vote for restoring habeas or letting volunteer forces get the rest they deserve, but they can vote for this piece of trash. Excellent priorities. I hope, when the Good Lord takes you, y'all can explain this with a straight face. Despicable, Disgraceful and Disgusting -- and I'm not taling about MoveOn either.

I ask, what did the Good General do but Betray Us? He doesn't know if the current policy is making the US safer, but he's all for continuing it. Last I checked, the oath was to defend the United States, not the policy of the President of the United States.
po | Email | Homepage | 09.20.07 - 4:56 pm

Let´s keep in mind that moveon is a MEMBER DRIVEN group. Members, of course, are normal citizens. So, the Senate just voted to tell we citizens to sit the fuck DOWN and SHUT THE FUCK UP. Otherwise, we´ll taser your asses. This just disgusts me beyond all measure. No fucking WONDER they´re at 11%, and this will drive them even lower. Single digit approval ratings, NEXT STOP! Has that EVER happened in the history of our country? Get your torches and pitchforks ready, people.... we´re gonna need em cuz Blackwater needs another gig.
Citizen J | Email | Homepage | 09.20.07 - 5:22 pm

It is empire on the brink when political ads become the preoccupation of the Congress in the middle of Treasury haemorrhage and illegal war.
It just shows who the democrats really are - the left arm of the corporate military industrail complex party. Total cowards who will never defend their own people and democratic principles.
These people can partly thank MoveOn for having majorities in the Congress and they do SHIT with it.

GO MoveON!!! Punch right back! Thank you. There are very few organisations that will fight this fascist monstrocity that is the government of and by the corporations.

Patreus IS an "ass kissing little chickenshit", the little loyal Bushie. They looked until they found him.
PeterM | Email | Homepage | 09.20.07 - 5:45 pm

Now I am mad! I just sent Moveon $100, and will continue to send money to them. They are the only group willing to stick their necks out for true Democrats. Lehy and Webb should be ashamed of themselves. They are more disgusting to me that the Republicans! What a shame
Anonymous | Email | Homepage | 09.20.07 - 6:52 pm

Congratulations to the majority of the Senate that is made up of goddamned cowards. This OFFICER in the Air Force just donated to MoveOn AGAIN because the Senate hates the 1st Amendment and worships goddamned generals as if they are gods. They are NOT. I work with generals and they are NOT gods. They can be asshats, jerks, and moral cowards just like anyone else. In fact, generals are MORE prone to moral cowardice because as you hit the pinnacle of military service rank, you get so political and so concerned about your position you turn your back, to large extent, on the oath.

The entire senate needs to be replaced. It is populated by nothing but dog turds.
Terminus Est | Email | Homepage | 09.20.07 - 7:20 pm

I'm sending $5,000.00 to Moveon.org and I'm going to encourage them to take out more ads. How about, Bush, failed President or War Criminal or Both?". Or how about, "Should the entire Congress be sent to Gitmo?" Better yet, "Bush is Hitler with a fake Texas drawl". The Goddamned truth of the matter is #1.Moveon only posed a question, 2. It pisses off the Fascist Neocons so flippin much because it is spot on true. These fucking senators are child molesting,closeted sex soliciting treasonous self serving Constitution Bill of Rights hating motherfuckers. 11% ladies and gentlemen... the citizenry of this Country has had it up to their ears with this shit and it's now time for the pitchforks and torches.
DroolingBush | Email | Homepage | 09.20.07 - 7:42 pm

Guess what senators? More Americans and Iraqis died while you were playing games in your nice tailored suits. I am disgusted beyond words. With one vote, you could change the direction of this country, but it's all about you and your interests, the rest of us be damned. You are the ones who are betraying us.
TC | Email | Homepage | 09.20.07 - 7:50 pm

The fact is, he did betray us, and he betrayed the men and women in uniform.

So it's General Betrayus.
President Betrayus.
Vice President Betrayus.
Attorney General Betrayus.
Justices Betrayus, Betrayus and Betrayus.
and of course, the Betrayus Party and the Betrayus Party.

Any Democrat that voted for this bullshit should be voted out of office at the first opportunity.
ROBinDALLAS | Email | Homepage | 09.20.07 - 9:18 pm

I am a veteran and I say General Betrayus. If anyone doesn't like it, well kiss my ass, no matter if you are important or not. I will not stand for another day of illegal warmongering!
j-m | Email | Homepage | 09.20.07 - 9:19 pm

Mary Landrieu is one of my Senators, and I just left a message on her website explaining why I now send money that used to go to the Democratic Party to MoveOn.Org.
chickles | Email | Homepage | 09.20.07 - 9:49 pm

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